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Thanksgiving open thread

So what's the deal with "open threads," anyway? Aren't all threads more or less open? I suspect it's blogger-speak for "I'm too lazy to think of something to post right now, so I'll just punt and call it an 'open' thread."

Well this one's a little bit different. I'm going out to the Left Coast for Thanksgiving this year, and I'm leaving tomorrow morning at the crack of dawn. I'll probably spend much of the rest of the day trying to get ready for the trip, so I probably won't be blogging here until after Thanksgiving weekend.

I hope everyone has a terrific Thanksgiving. I'll talk to you when I get back.


which one's the turkey?

too easy to resist...........

Happy Thanksgiving Bazz (WHAT exactly is the Left coast anyway??)

I hope GWB has a great Thanksgiving despite having Cindy Moonbat staring down on him.

May you have a wonderful holiday, and may your turkey not be a plastic fake like the one President Dangerfield is holding in this photo.

Republicans Calling a Decorated War Hero a Coward Devalue the Heroism of our Soldiers Currently Serving in Iraq

Even in the Orwellian world of American politics the events of recent weeks have been surreal. But despite all the arguing going on among our political leaders one thing has been constant and that is the overwhelming support among Americans for our troops in the field. Regardless of ones political affiliation or view on the conduct of the operation in Iraq, it is clear that all Americans support the troops, and all grieve equally when they are injured or die. Suggesting that only one side of the political spectrum is concerned about the well being of our troops is small-minded idiocy; clearly those who say or believe such a thing are profoundly morally handicapped.

It is clear to anybody who is paying the least bit of attention that the war in Iraq is not going well. Thus far 2094 American soldiers have died and more than 15,000 have been left permanently disabled. The war has thus far cost the average American family over $3000 and costs each family an additional $100 per week. The sole measure of success on the part of the wars supporters is that if we left now the country of Iraq would implode. Americans have rightly come to question whether this is an appropriate measure of success for a war that has cost us all so dearly.

But as the Bush Administration grows increasingly desperate they have come to adopt a strategy of questioning the patriotism of those with whom they disagree. It should be noted that 63% of Americans believe that the war is not going well, and that 57% of Americans believe that the Bush Administration misused pre-war intelligence to justify their preconceived plans of going to war. But Bush and Cheney are undeterred, grimly describing those who don’t agree with their policies as “deeply irresponsible, reprehensible and dishonest.”

Recently the Bush war marketing campaign has taken a further turn, suggesting that those who question the Administration conduct of the war undermine our soldiers in the field, that those who disagree with Bush don’t support the soldiers. Only19% of Americans support Cheney, 34% support Bush and only 40% of Americans still believe that Bush is honest. Those numbers seem to be sinking by the day as Americans are increasingly disgusted and appalled by an Administration and a Republican Congress that judges whether citizens support their own soldiers on the basis of who agrees or disagrees with the Administration war policy.

There is no doubt that we ask a great deal of our soldiers in the field, this has been the case throughout the history of our country. We have seen so many times that ordinary men are asked to perform extraordinary duties; those that go above and beyond are considered heroes and recognized by their country for their valor. Just over a week ago our country paused to reflect and remember, and to honor those who served our country in war. Veterans proudly displayed their medals, tokens of appreciation from a grateful country for their acts of bravery. Today in Iraq we have men and women performing those same duties on our behalf; some will be similarly honored.

But what message does it send to our soldiers in the field in Iraq, soldiers whom we are asking to perform extraordinary acts of bravery on our behalf, when their Commander in Chief who sent others to do his war service questions the bravery and patriotism of a soldier who earned 2 purple hearts in battle? When the Vice President (himself a recipient of 5 deferments) suggests that a much-decorated veteran who happens to disagree with him “lacks backbone?” When a Republican member of Congress suggests that that same decorated war veteran is a coward? Does it devalue the service of our soldiers in the field when they see that the Administration can so easily dismiss a war hero as a coward simply because he disagrees with them? Why should they be as committed to duty, honor and bravery as John Murtha was when they see that the Administration would piss on Murtha and his medals for their political purposes? Would the Administration do the same to them?

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, just when you thought you had seen the worst of American politics, we’re treated to the spectacle of cowards like Cheney calling heroes like Murtha a coward. Orwell lives, but the last shred of decency on the part of the Bush Administration has long since passed. The Bushtanic is sinking, but as it was when Nixon went down the mood is not celebratory, it’s far more like mourning; mourning for our country, for all of us…for we brought it upon ourselves when we elected the incompetent bastard and his band of sissy-hawk warriors.

That was a pretty lame cut and paste job there, but oh it sounded heartfelt. Your wordplay is both astounding and refreshing to read. Supposedly your poll numbers are meaningful as well, boy they sound BIG.

The fact is that throughout the 90s Congress, both Rep and Dem, the WORLD, and the u.n. agreed that Saddam was a liar, a cheat, and a ruthless murdrer. Saddam would not come clean on the destruction of his weapons and we all called him out on it for years.

Many Dems are now questioning whether the White House deliberately mislead the Congress and the public with faulty, cooked-up intelligence. That is what the Republicans like Cheney are calling them out for.

The only attack on Murtha is on his idea to immediately draw down our troops in Iraq and redeploy to Kuwait and other staging areas. The Repugs think that tells the Iraqis "see ya! wouldn't wanna be ya! call us though, really"
and call that "cut and run". You tell me how pulling out of Iraq would help the Iraqis.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. And may you have an enjoyable and uneventful trip, Barry.

The entire Bush Administration lied, and they all knew better. There is no need to credit them with good intentions, since they obviously cooked up the entire scheme to enrich Halliburton.

So, how much money is Halliburton going to hand Bush and Cheney when it's all over, for a job well done?

Happy Thanksgiving. Lets try to forget for a couple of days the lies of Bush and Cheney. I am sure they will come up with lots of innovative new lies after the holidays.

I hope you and Sarah have a good holiday. :o) Personally, I have to trek to Connecticut, which I realize is not a long trip, but on Thanksgiving? :p

Hope you and yours have a lovely holiday.

Me, I got about a half-dozen relatives coming in from out of town; as well as some friends from the local branch of the Illuminati and (of course) a couple of Jewish bankers. The wife is preparing roasted spotted owl in stolen oil. Later we're all going to sit around a burning scale-model of a mosque, and read Blue Wind's posts out loud just for chuckles.

Good food, good friends, and good humor. What more could a man ask of a holiday?

Happy Thanksgiving, Barry!

(and the rest of y'all, too)

Going up to Albany tonight and then alllll the way down to Jersey! Stay off the roads please, even you wild turkeys!!

Have a happy Thanksgiving y'all. :)

Happy Thanksgiving, Brother! Love the site and our many years of talking over politics!!!
Ken (Wormman)

Have a great Thanksgiving Barry! Next time you head south inside of left, let me know. We're finally into party mode and are scheduling several next month (still haven't finished everything in and around the house but what the heck!). Party central in Chatham county!


Did you hear that Sarkozy actually wrote a comment in a French blog that was highly critical of him?

My dad just called me up and said "it's too bad you can't read in French, Adam"

I hate deer. Also, happy belated Thanksgiving.

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